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let us raise the debt ceiling. no strings attached. and if the president can raise it as he should be able to and if congress wants to reject it 2/3. the mcconnell proposal is a good republican proposal. i hope you support it. that's the way to go. >> let me ask you a question a bill that says regardless of what happens with the debt ceiling that the united states will never default on the debt, would you support that or not? >> i support the concept. i'd have to look at the bill. the best way to do that is the mcconnell act. >> we may have just made news. >>> last week, general colin powell was here worried about a dark vein of intolerance in republican quarters. you are part of a stream of new faces in the republican party, minority faces and voices in the party that seem to stand against that. how did you respond to it? >> well, i saw that interview. i respect general powell a great deal. i was disappointed with those comments. i think he was buying into some of the partisan attacks. if you look at this last election, for example, i
let us raise the debt ceiling. no strings attached. and if the president can raise it as he should be able to and if congress wants to reject it 2/3. the mcconnell proposal is a good republican proposal. i hope you support it. that's the way to go. >> let me ask you a question a bill that says regardless of what happens with the debt ceiling that the united states will never default on the debt, would you support that or not? >> i support the concept. i'd have to look at the bill....
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if you watch what happened on the fiscal cliff, if you watch the way he is handling the debt ceiling, i think he understands that he has a lot of high cards he is going to play those, and the republicans are in some disarray here. tom cole in the house leadership say half the republicans voted against the fiscal cliff deal secretly hoped it passed. we've entered a new kind of framework. guns are a different story. it's going to be tough, maybe impossible to pass all the different stuff the president proposed, and some like the background checks, 90% of americans are for them. nra numbers are for them. one really big thing is happening. the old line that this is about conphysician cat iing people's guns taking guns away from hunters has been opposed because this has been too vivid a tragedy, and the president has been so swift and so clear. >> and anybody who goes back and looks at the heller case, the d.c. gun case, knows that the supreme court has made it very clear this is want about confiscating your guns, but some restrictions on military weapons are quite legal and constitutional
if you watch what happened on the fiscal cliff, if you watch the way he is handling the debt ceiling, i think he understands that he has a lot of high cards he is going to play those, and the republicans are in some disarray here. tom cole in the house leadership say half the republicans voted against the fiscal cliff deal secretly hoped it passed. we've entered a new kind of framework. guns are a different story. it's going to be tough, maybe impossible to pass all the different stuff the...
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of course, that means another debt ceiling debate is just three months away. joining us now, bill cohen, a columnist at bloomberg view and by phone we have nbc's luke russert in williamsburg, virginia, covering the house republicans. welcome to both of you. >> thank you, karen. >> luke, i want to start with you. republicans are calling it a plan, democratic leader nancy pelosi call it is a gimmick. it sounds more like -- i mean, my read initially was this is more like political posturing rather than a serious deal. what are you hearing down there? >> well, it certainly is something that's meant to try and force the senate to act. you know, the senate has not passed a suggest in over 1,300 days and that's a popular rallying cry of the house gop. but what came out of this retreat was the idea instilled in members that it's probably not beneficial with the republican brand so damaged nationally to have a real standoff over the debt limit. this is a way they're trying to get passed that, a three-month extension. they're not demanding any cuts. all they're demandin
of course, that means another debt ceiling debate is just three months away. joining us now, bill cohen, a columnist at bloomberg view and by phone we have nbc's luke russert in williamsburg, virginia, covering the house republicans. welcome to both of you. >> thank you, karen. >> luke, i want to start with you. republicans are calling it a plan, democratic leader nancy pelosi call it is a gimmick. it sounds more like -- i mean, my read initially was this is more like political...
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no debt ceiling. one of those congressmen will join me on the other side of this break. >> congress is more removed from this issue than mayors are. congress people don't get called in the middle of the night when a police officer has been shot. mayors do. >> one of those mayors, l.a.'s antonio villaraigosa coming up in the next hour. keep it here. this is msnbc, the place for politics and cool music picked out by producers in new york city. ♪ i don't wanna be right [ record scratch ] what?! it's not bad for you. it just tastes that way. [ female announcer ] honey nut cheerios cereal -- heart-healthy, whole grain oats. you can't go wrong loving it. plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day men's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for men's health concerns as we age. it has 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day men's 50+. ♪ doing it with a cold, just not going to happen. vicks dayquil -- powerful non-drowsy 6-symptom cold & flu relief. ♪ no matter what city you're playing t
no debt ceiling. one of those congressmen will join me on the other side of this break. >> congress is more removed from this issue than mayors are. congress people don't get called in the middle of the night when a police officer has been shot. mayors do. >> one of those mayors, l.a.'s antonio villaraigosa coming up in the next hour. keep it here. this is msnbc, the place for politics and cool music picked out by producers in new york city. ♪ i don't wanna be right [ record...
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there's this one over the debt ceiling. there's a continuing resolution to actually fund the government. then there's sequestration. yesterday politico reporting that house gop members are gearing up for a fight over the debt ceiling, but now you have people like newt gingrich, choice of reason in the wilderness. let's play the sound. he is advocating for them not to fight over this. >> it's a threat they can't sustain. no one is going to default. no one is going to allow the united states to not pay its bills. they have much better news to fight over spending. they have a continuing resolution that funds government, which comes up at the end of march, and they have this sequester that automatically cuts spending. >> gingrich isn't saying lay down your arms, but he is saying there are better battles ahead. >> he is saying you're going to lose this debt fight because -- he has said previously that the entire global world of finance is going to come into washington the week before the debt ceiling is hit and they're going to
there's this one over the debt ceiling. there's a continuing resolution to actually fund the government. then there's sequestration. yesterday politico reporting that house gop members are gearing up for a fight over the debt ceiling, but now you have people like newt gingrich, choice of reason in the wilderness. let's play the sound. he is advocating for them not to fight over this. >> it's a threat they can't sustain. no one is going to default. no one is going to allow the united...
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on the debt ceiling. not again. and today after months of insisting that the president really did have to negotiate with them on that, republicans in congress gave up. david corn "showdown," the stand off the president faced with republicans. david, thanks for being here. >> good evening, rachel. >> eric cantor says, yeah, we're going to give up, but only for three months. what did you make of that? >> i'm the last guy who wants to cause a spike in the vix, but, you know, there are a couple of things to think about here. i call this plan r for run away. but we know that john boehner often has had trouble with his various plans. plan b most notoriously, getting them approved, accepted and passed by his own house republicans. and cantor made a very declarative statement today. we're going to bring this to a vote, and when you do that, usually you think you have the votes, but immediately there were grumblings that some house republicans will go along with this i'm not sure that democrats will, too. so it remains to be
on the debt ceiling. not again. and today after months of insisting that the president really did have to negotiate with them on that, republicans in congress gave up. david corn "showdown," the stand off the president faced with republicans. david, thanks for being here. >> good evening, rachel. >> eric cantor says, yeah, we're going to give up, but only for three months. what did you make of that? >> i'm the last guy who wants to cause a spike in the vix, but, you...
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the debt ceiling is not there now? >> even if you don't want to listen to the president, like, listen to fitch and moodies and all the rating agencies who say this is not an economic issue. this is a political crisis that the united states is going through right now. and the thing about this, rev, is that this is a policy without a constituency. who backs this? who backs the idea to say basically, we're going to spend and spend and spend. and when the bills come up, we're not going to debate how we're going to spend in the future. if you want to have a larger conversation about spending, then we can have a larger conversation about spending. the moment we confuse them is when we start damaging the long term prospects of where this country can be economically. >> but nia, in fairness, there have been, at least in this area, some prominent republicans that are starting to point out that this is a little too far up here. senator murkowski says if you incur an obligation, you have the responsibility to pay for that. and th
the debt ceiling is not there now? >> even if you don't want to listen to the president, like, listen to fitch and moodies and all the rating agencies who say this is not an economic issue. this is a political crisis that the united states is going through right now. and the thing about this, rev, is that this is a policy without a constituency. who backs this? who backs the idea to say basically, we're going to spend and spend and spend. and when the bills come up, we're not going to...
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raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending. it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. these are bills that have already been racked up. and we need to pay them. so while i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce our deficits, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they have already racked up. but to even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills is irresponsible. it is absurd. the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. and they had better choose quickly because time is running short. >> house republicans continued to threaten to use the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. house republican conference chairwoman kathy rogers told "political" i think it is possible we would shut down the government to make sure that president obama understands that we're serious. well, i guess that would do it. we always talk
raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending. it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. these are bills that have already been racked up. and we need to pay them. so while i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce our deficits, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills they have already racked up. but to even entertain the idea of this happening, of...
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battle when the debt ceiling rolls around. >> our opportunity here is on the debt ceiling. this is where we have leverage. >> remember that the gop vowing to hold the country hostage for cuts? they had the leverage, getting ready to fight. speaker boehner even tried his hand at extortion saying, "there's a price for everything." but, now, here comes the cave. today, republicans in the house voted to suspend the debt ceiling. what about the hostage-taking? not this time. and remember all the usual bluster in those press conferences of theirs? today, the gop leaders ducked the press. only a few print reporters, boehner's camera man and a lone fox news camera were there to capture their comments in their entirety. huh? so why the sudden change? >> the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. we are not a deadbeat nation. >> they will not collect our ransom in exchange for not crashing the american economy. what i will not do is to have that negotiation with the american people. we're not going do do that. >> they're not going to do that.
battle when the debt ceiling rolls around. >> our opportunity here is on the debt ceiling. this is where we have leverage. >> remember that the gop vowing to hold the country hostage for cuts? they had the leverage, getting ready to fight. speaker boehner even tried his hand at extortion saying, "there's a price for everything." but, now, here comes the cave. today, republicans in the house voted to suspend the debt ceiling. what about the hostage-taking? not this time....
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the republicans have at least begun to back off on the debt ceiling fight. you note that sandy aid passed even though it only got 46 republican votes in the house. it seems to me this strategy of laying out what you want and then negotiating is better than trying to figure out what the other side wants. >> chairman steel, there's been some discussion as to whether this was even, many of the, that progressive of a speech, but the reaction from conservative outlets -- >> oh, baby, it was. >> i have been waiting for the real barack obama to show up, and i don't mean that as a criticism. i mean that honestly. knowing him as i have come to know him over the years, going back to when he first came to washington as a senator, that's the guy that i as chairman was prepared to do battle against and framed my chairmanship and even wrote a book about how to defeat this agenda, this very progressive agenda for conservatives to wake up coming out of the slumps of 2006 and 2008. >> can i say one thing, though, and ezra, i would like to get your thoughts on this. i thought
the republicans have at least begun to back off on the debt ceiling fight. you note that sandy aid passed even though it only got 46 republican votes in the house. it seems to me this strategy of laying out what you want and then negotiating is better than trying to figure out what the other side wants. >> chairman steel, there's been some discussion as to whether this was even, many of the, that progressive of a speech, but the reaction from conservative outlets -- >> oh, baby, it...
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. >> stop using the debt ceiling. you'll have a continuing resolution that runs out two weeks afterwards. why risk. in fact, if this is the rhetorical debate you want to have -- >> the problem with the republican party we get into this incrementalism where we assume we can win and keep putting off the debate. let's have a debate about whether or not we should balance our budget. >> a continuing resolution will be passed. the debt ceiling will be raised, right. >> i agree. the debt limit should be raised. >> should be raised with spending cuts and policy changes. >> why. >> so we can put our nation on a path to balance. >> why not have the fight on resolution. you're talking about future spending and not threatening the full faith and credit of the u.s. government. >> nobody is threatening the full faith and credit. >> it undermines your argument to have it during the debt ceiling debate. >> we can have this debate right now. we need it for the next month and come together a month from now and figure out where we stand
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there's a new debt ceiling plan from speaker john boehner and the house republicans that could force senate democrats to finally show their hand and pass a budget. plus it's only day four of president obama's second term, but joe biden is already commenting on possibly running for the top job himself in 2016. we'll show you what he said in a minute. first the new developments in the debate over guns in america. the national rifle association last night delivered a sharp response to president obama's inaugural address. speaking in reno, nevada, way waywayn wayne lapierre lashed out at one word from president obama. >> we cannot mistake absolutism, or treat name calling as reasoned debate. >> obama wants to turn the idea of absolutism into a dirty word, just another word for extremism. he wants you, all of you, and americans throughout all of this country, to accept the idea of principles as he sees fit. it's a way of redefining words so that commonsense is turned upside down and that nobody knows the difference. >> lapierre vowed not to give ground on gun control including efforts to
there's a new debt ceiling plan from speaker john boehner and the house republicans that could force senate democrats to finally show their hand and pass a budget. plus it's only day four of president obama's second term, but joe biden is already commenting on possibly running for the top job himself in 2016. we'll show you what he said in a minute. first the new developments in the debate over guns in america. the national rifle association last night delivered a sharp response to president...
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rather than raise the debt ceiling, the bill temporarily suspends it. meaning a vote will be held at some future point to determine whether to pay off the debt retroactively. secondly, this is a larger scheme to move the battle over the deficit and spending to a place where the republicans feel they have more leverage. the gop hashed plans for a republican revolution. politico report s speaker john boehner, using paul ryan as his salesman, urged his members to make their stand on the budget and sequesters. jake sherman writes, in roughly 48 hours, the republicans went from defense to offense and retreated to the debt ceiling must be matched by spending cuts. it was the swiftest and most drastic position switch in boehner's speakership. it was not lost on kevin mccarthy who said, "what they'll say after that vote, this is the day of the comeback." maybe if comeback also conotes fractious and uncertain strategy. with no democratic support, the way could go the way of boehner's plan b if just seven republicans break rank. and they still have to contend wit
rather than raise the debt ceiling, the bill temporarily suspends it. meaning a vote will be held at some future point to determine whether to pay off the debt retroactively. secondly, this is a larger scheme to move the battle over the deficit and spending to a place where the republicans feel they have more leverage. the gop hashed plans for a republican revolution. politico report s speaker john boehner, using paul ryan as his salesman, urged his members to make their stand on the budget and...
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. >> and also the question of the debt ceiling, which, you know, apparently is going tok extended. but, chuck, as long as those things are looming on the horizon, this president cannot fully pursue his own agenda. he's got to sort of address the immediate spending, the immediate fiscal issues that are facing the country right now. >> tom cole, this is obviously going to be the first showdown, this issue of spending and the debt and how it gets solved will determine what else could get done. i think with that probably there would be universal agreement. what do you want to hear from him tomorrow as a republican, as a -- i mean, what do you think is the right message for him? >> well, i think he needs to honestly transcend what he's done thus far. look, he's a very significant person in american history already not just because he's the first african-american. he's got some big wins -- health care, stimulus, dodd/frank. but all of those things have been done essentially with nothing but democratic support. you're not going to have that the second term. he comes in actually as a secon
. >> and also the question of the debt ceiling, which, you know, apparently is going tok extended. but, chuck, as long as those things are looming on the horizon, this president cannot fully pursue his own agenda. he's got to sort of address the immediate spending, the immediate fiscal issues that are facing the country right now. >> tom cole, this is obviously going to be the first showdown, this issue of spending and the debt and how it gets solved will determine what else could...
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is it a de-escalation of the debt ceiling fight? >> they're trying to force the arm of the senate in this way, because they want the sflat to move and pass a budget. so this gives them more leverage and there are new polling out that say some people are kind of behind this republican tack of trying to push the senate to pass a budget. they want, people want reduction in spending. this might work for them. the white house is saying they're encouraged by this. i don't know. it could fall under the kick the can down the road for obama. >> i wonder with you, lauren. does this allow them to kick the can downed road or give them more time to come to a long-term asgreemt do up see the rest of the budget playing out any certain way now? >> alex, we have to look back to 2011 when we had the fight back then, which propelled us into the fiscal cliff. he ended up kicking the can down the road and i think that's what we'll see again here. we have to remember, two other major fiscal deadlines. xwet trags, automatic budget cuts coming up first wee
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we know we have got more on the debt ceiling, we know that republicans are already losing on that. so we have got to be very careful on that. the president knows that and that's part of the strategy of going directly to northwestern people. >> let's take a look at a new cnn time orc poll that talks about that stricter gun control laws and what the temperature is. 55% favor districter gun control laws. and then if we look back just a little bit further to "the washington post," abc poll, they talk about armed guards in schools. this is where the dichotomy in school -- the poll shows that 55% support having armed guards in school whereas 52% oppose that. and karen, i want to start with you on this one. because for the people on the left who are proud to say they support second amendment rights, we look at that contrast there where people want to see districter gun control laws, but they also think that there is a legitimate discussion to be had about having armed guards at school. >> we haven't had that discussion. remember the -- thomas -- when you talk about having armed guards, yo
we know we have got more on the debt ceiling, we know that republicans are already losing on that. so we have got to be very careful on that. the president knows that and that's part of the strategy of going directly to northwestern people. >> let's take a look at a new cnn time orc poll that talks about that stricter gun control laws and what the temperature is. 55% favor districter gun control laws. and then if we look back just a little bit further to "the washington post,"...
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. >> we're going to change to debt ceiling now. white house leader eric cantor says the gop -- they're going to give them a three-month reprieve, they're going to temporarily approve a debt limit increase. the president said no negotiating on the debt limit ceiling. is this a victory for the president or do you see this as just a postponing of the inevitable standoff? >> it's both. it is a victory for the president, the republicans have been saying, we're not going to raise the debt ceiling unless we have every dollar of the debt ceiling goes to spending of that same amount. they've conceded they're going to extend the debt ceiling without any cuts. but that moves us to now where government funding expires on march 31th. at that point, we'll have a s w showdown in which republicans insist on spending cuts. there will still be some kind of fight. we will have a clock to some kind of catastrophic event that could happen, like we had in december. but it would not be with the debt ceiling. the republicans seem to have conceded to the o
. >> we're going to change to debt ceiling now. white house leader eric cantor says the gop -- they're going to give them a three-month reprieve, they're going to temporarily approve a debt limit increase. the president said no negotiating on the debt limit ceiling. is this a victory for the president or do you see this as just a postponing of the inevitable standoff? >> it's both. it is a victory for the president, the republicans have been saying, we're not going to raise the debt...
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. >>> just a few hours ago paul ryan claimed to have the solution to our debt ceiling impasse. he calls it a short-term debt limit extension. you may know it better as kicking the can down the road. which reminds me, there was someone just a few months ago who was famously against that kind of a deal. who was it? >> kick the can. kick the can. kick the can. >> right, of course. that's who it was. joining us is jonathan alter and jared bernstein. welcome to you both. john, we've seen speaker boehner's power getting weaker and weaker. is paul ryan now the de facto head of the gop? >> well, you know, actually, martin, i think he has been much more influential than people realize -- >> because he's been quite quiet publicly. >> going back to 2011. he has so much respect within that republican caucus. he's the guy who killed simpson/bowl simpson/bowles. he was on the simpson/bowles commission and wasn't willing to have any revenue increases. his fingerprints were not on it. and then when it came to the grand bargain, he told john boehner wait until the election. don't do this deal.
. >>> just a few hours ago paul ryan claimed to have the solution to our debt ceiling impasse. he calls it a short-term debt limit extension. you may know it better as kicking the can down the road. which reminds me, there was someone just a few months ago who was famously against that kind of a deal. who was it? >> kick the can. kick the can. kick the can. >> right, of course. that's who it was. joining us is jonathan alter and jared bernstein. welcome to you both. john,...
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ceiling, although he said he is open to more spending cuts. but he insisted that the u.s. is, quote, not a deadbeat nation. >>> walmart, the nation's largest retailer, will announce a plan today to hire every veteran honorably discharged in the last 12 months who wants a job which could mean 100,000 new jobs. >>> former president george h.w. bush was released from a houston hospital after more than seven weeks of treatment for bronchitis and related problems. >>> rand paul faces charges of assaulting a flight attendant on a january 5th flight in addition to underage drinking and other charges. >>> the chicago transportation authority is suing united airlines. they claim the airline is buying its jet fuel 70 miles away to avoid paying close to $300 million in sales taxes. the airline says the suit's claims are untrue. >>> students at the university of vermont should not bring bottled water had they return to campus because the school has banned its sale for environmental reasons. vermont is the largest public university to prohibit bottled wate
ceiling, although he said he is open to more spending cuts. but he insisted that the u.s. is, quote, not a deadbeat nation. >>> walmart, the nation's largest retailer, will announce a plan today to hire every veteran honorably discharged in the last 12 months who wants a job which could mean 100,000 new jobs. >>> former president george h.w. bush was released from a houston hospital after more than seven weeks of treatment for bronchitis and related problems. >>> rand...
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kristen hit on them there, gun, immigration, among the biggest, the debt ceiling and president obama has a lot offy second-term agenda, but many seem skeptical and in our latest wall street journal poll asked where america is headed, nearly 60% of the people polled used negative words like wrong track, downhill. joining me now to talk about all of this, christina antonio, political reporter, and ed o'keefe for "the washington post". good to have you guys in the flesh. usually it's in double boxes and this is a nice treat. >> let's throw another number on the screen, christina. this is the president's approval rating as he goes into his second term. right now, 52%, according to the poll, say they approve of the job that president obama is doing so far. how does that compare to other two-term presidents? >> he is not quite as popular as many other presidents and he's a little bit higher than george w. bush was going into his second term, but it really reflects that and when you look at the breakdown of the job approval rating and what people like, he's okay, just over the 50% mark in t
kristen hit on them there, gun, immigration, among the biggest, the debt ceiling and president obama has a lot offy second-term agenda, but many seem skeptical and in our latest wall street journal poll asked where america is headed, nearly 60% of the people polled used negative words like wrong track, downhill. joining me now to talk about all of this, christina antonio, political reporter, and ed o'keefe for "the washington post". good to have you guys in the flesh. usually it's in...
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is he telling them to back away from the debt ceiling fight? >> i don't know that he's telling them to back away. but i think he's certainly smart in observing the facts. we saw a really brutal fight for speaker boehner. we saw a failed plan b on the hill: and then you saw him scrambling to figure out how to get the votes to pass a fiscal cliff deal. so paul ryan recognizes the sign of the times and i think he's fleeing the far right of the party. it's certainly not going to work in this day and age. >> but angela, you worked the hill and were the head of the congressional black caucus. when they get back to d.c., the friends of their party will still be there. political reports gop leaders are authentically at a loss on how to control members who don't respond to the normal incentives of wanting to help party leaders or of avoiding situations like default. that could be a public relations nightmare. now, how do you deal with this? you've been in those rooms with congress people. how do they deal with the fringe groups that are marching to the
is he telling them to back away from the debt ceiling fight? >> i don't know that he's telling them to back away. but i think he's certainly smart in observing the facts. we saw a really brutal fight for speaker boehner. we saw a failed plan b on the hill: and then you saw him scrambling to figure out how to get the votes to pass a fiscal cliff deal. so paul ryan recognizes the sign of the times and i think he's fleeing the far right of the party. it's certainly not going to work in this...